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Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/4/2010 7:43:48 AM
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PHmosh1
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I'm trying to come up with ideas for making money without having a typical 9-5 job. Is this even possible?
I've thought of ways to save money but not really make money.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/4/2010 8:46:29 AM
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I'm trying to come up with ideas for making money without having a typical 9-5 job. Is this even possible?
I've thought of ways to save money but not really make money.
Sure, it's possible, but it depends on what you're good at and who you know.
-Dan.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/5/2010 12:38:52 AM
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I guess it depends on what you're good at/what interests you. Would you be interested in say, handyman work, or part time work? Would you want to start up your own business? Could you be a contractor or be self-employed?
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/5/2010 1:25:36 AM
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I'm trying to come up with ideas for making money without having a typical 9-5 job. Is this even possible?
Sure it is possible.
What you propose is called 'self-employment' and does not involve 9-5 working hours.
It involves 6AM to 12Am...18 hour each and every day workings hours...
And wages lower than minimum in most cases....
But if you have the heart and guts to handle such commitment, then you may have an alternate kind of career path.
If not, go back to mama and have her take care of you till you are 53 years old and she dies....
And you can claim disability and wait till social security kicks in....
Otherwise you are just another lost working soul who will, never amount to anything in the 'real' world...
Sorry....
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/7/2010 9:33:00 PM
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Are you getting training in music and the different ways in which it can be used? The working musicians/actors that I know get a lot of training that will open the door for them to be able to do all sorts of things - like act in musical theatre plays, give lessons, do film music, lead worship, etc. If you can get around other musicians that will help you out a lot.
Have you thought about working places where there are other performers (like theme parks, dinner theatres, film societies, church, etc.)?
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/8/2010 7:55:01 AM
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PHmosh1
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Are you getting training in music and the different ways in which it can be used? The working musicians/actors that I know get a lot of training that will open the door for them to be able to do all sorts of things - like act in musical theatre plays, give lessons, do film music, lead worship, etc. If you can get around other musicians that will help you out a lot.
Have you thought about working places where there are other performers (like theme parks, dinner theatres, film societies, church, etc.)?
I am one of the worship leaders at my church, but it's not a paying job.
There are some local spots that host open mic nights a lot. I'd like to get in on that scene.
I'm meeting with my pastor about this next week. I'm hoping he can share some wisdom with me.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/8/2010 7:58:37 AM
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..... our worship leader gives music lessons during the day. Sometimes making your skills known at the school can be a good thing. Lots of kids need music tutors!
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/8/2010 8:50:29 AM
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I am one of the worship leaders at my church, but it's not a paying job.
There are some local spots that host open mic nights a lot. I'd like to get in on that scene.
I'm meeting with my pastor about this next week. I'm hoping he can share some wisdom with me.
Another question you have to ask yourself is whether or not you expect this to provide for your full income or whether it's just a bit of extra money. Making a real living just playing music is hard, takes several years of practice and is still something of a ****shoot, since you ultimately have to achieve an above-average level of success. Cover bands don't usually pay enough until you can reliably draw a hundred or more people on any given night and/or you get into the more lucrative corporate/wedding circuit. Original bands are a whole other situation - be prepared to tour in a van for a few years.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/10/2010 3:37:11 AM
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Are you getting training in music and the different ways in which it can be used? The working musicians/actors that I know get a lot of training that will open the door for them to be able to do all sorts of things - like act in musical theatre plays, give lessons, do film music, lead worship, etc. If you can get around other musicians that will help you out a lot.
Have you thought about working places where there are other performers (like theme parks, dinner theatres, film societies, church, etc.)?
I am one of the worship leaders at my church, but it's not a paying job.
There are some local spots that host open mic nights a lot. I'd like to get in on that scene.
I'm meeting with my pastor about this next week. I'm hoping he can share some wisdom with me.
That is a great idea. Your pastor should be able to help you. Additionally, if you are called to be a musician, you might want to consider doing things like learning how to read, write, and arrange music (if you don't already know these things), learning a variety of different styles, exploring other complimentary talents and skills (writing plays, editing film or learning about sound design, audio engineering, musical business skills, promotional skills etc.), and getting plugged into a musical community. A college with a strong music program or a conservatory can be one way to obtain this. (Plus, if later you are called to be a music director of a church, many require a music degree in addition to some sort of master's degree in divinity ... just putting that out there.) The open mic nights sounds like a great opportunity to connect with other musicians. Everything though, starts with prayer and you should be led of the Lord in all of these things. It seems to me that most working musicians that I know are flexible. They can do different things well and can catch on to things quickly. One day, they might play backup for another musician. Another day, they might partner with someone to write music for a play. Maybe the next month, someone asks them to write a jingle for a commercial. All of this might occur as you are working on your own CD.
Don't discount what you are doing as a worship leader, even if it is not a paying gig. I'm not a worship leader, but am frequently asked (well, ok, physically dragged) into situations where I am either leading or singing/doing backup for worship. A lot of what I'm learning now, and this has been my desire for quite some time, is about how to touch God in worship, how to listen for his direction, how to move with his spirit in worship. My desire is to touch him in worship, to go into the holy of holies with him, and to help other people do the same thing. There are so very many things that can happen in worship. People can be healed of emotional and physical problems, people behold the Lord, and there are many aspects of spiritual warfare that are involved as well.
Also, keep in mind, that God has timing for many things. I think that there is a reason why many Christian musicians that we see are older than their secular counterparts. That is not to say that young people cannot or should not serve God in this way. What I am saying is that so often, God uses us as he develops character in us.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/17/2010 4:45:27 PM
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Read no "No More Monday's" by Dan Miller.. He also has a book called "48 Days To The Work You Love" He has very good books
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/18/2010 6:17:54 PM
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Some time ago, I started to make $ without 9-5. I started with $15. I bought things from auctions, found buyers and resold the items I bought. At first I found things family members wanted. I'd say "Hey I'm going to the auction - you looking for anything?" Many would say well if you can get me a microwave or couch etc.. I'd like that if you can get it for X amount. The hardest part was to learn what people wanted BEFORE I went to the auction. Once I learned how to that I, the first dollar I spent at auction yielded a $63 return. By knowing ahead of time, your money and time were not locked up in inventory. It became a game of how fast can I flip it. Today I have almost 10,000 buyers on my personal list, I'm trying to bring the list on line, and I teach how to make $ with auctions. Get the free newsletter at Mister Find IT, and I'll teach you.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/20/2010 10:07:33 AM
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Think of a product you LOVE. If you use it, enjoy it, and really can't see living with out it, then try to become a dealer or distributor. If you love a product, then it's not hard to sell it. If you don't really like or believe in your product, then it's a chore that last 8 hours a day for 5 days a week.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/20/2010 11:25:02 AM
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As someone else said, that is called being self-employed. Most times you make more money being self-employed.
Here is an example you may can apply to your situation. I know a guy who loves to work out. He loves body building. So to pay for what he really enjoys doing he learned his stuff: diet, methods, turned his house into a gym, etc.
He is now a multi-time world champion arm wrestler and earns a living training other people in bodybuilding/arm wrestling. That title has won him some product endorsment contracts as well as being featured in body building magazines. All that is impressive but his real motivation was that he wanted to stay at home and work out all the time. He turned his passion into an income.
Become the "go to" (expert) person in what you do and business will find you.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/20/2010 11:28:26 AM
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Sure it is possible.
What you propose is called 'self-employment' and does not involve 9-5 working hours.
It involves 6AM to 12Am...18 hour each and every day workings hours...
And wages lower than minimum in most cases....
But if you have the heart and guts and balls to handle such commitment, then you may have an alternate kind of career path.
If not, go back to mama and have her take care of you till you are 53 years old and she dies....
And you can claim disability and wait till social security kicks in....
Otherwise you are just another lost working soul who will, never amount to anything in the 'real' world...
Sorry....
What's up with that? You having a bad day or what?
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/20/2010 2:32:06 PM
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oooooooooooo Manhatton oh dear someone is having a bad day or is slightly bitter.
We are all equal in Gods eyes, our identity is in Christ not our world jobs.
Your comment is very very rude.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/21/2010 1:23:49 AM
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Are you getting training in music and the different ways in which it can be used? The working musicians/actors that I know get a lot of training that will open the door for them to be able to do all sorts of things - like act in musical theatre plays, give lessons, do film music, lead worship, etc. If you can get around other musicians that will help you out a lot.
Have you thought about working places where there are other performers (like theme parks, dinner theatres, film societies, church, etc.)?
I am one of the worship leaders at my church, but it's not a paying job.
There are some local spots that host open mic nights a lot. I'd like to get in on that scene.
I'm meeting with my pastor about this next week. I'm hoping he can share some wisdom with me.
You could always move to Music City. We'd love to have ya in Nashville! 
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/21/2010 7:42:44 AM
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Are you getting training in music and the different ways in which it can be used? The working musicians/actors that I know get a lot of training that will open the door for them to be able to do all sorts of things - like act in musical theatre plays, give lessons, do film music, lead worship, etc. If you can get around other musicians that will help you out a lot.
Have you thought about working places where there are other performers (like theme parks, dinner theatres, film societies, church, etc.)?
I am one of the worship leaders at my church, but it's not a paying job.
There are some local spots that host open mic nights a lot. I'd like to get in on that scene.
I'm meeting with my pastor about this next week. I'm hoping he can share some wisdom with me.
You could always move to Music City. We'd love to have ya in Nashville!
I've thought about it!
I'm only about 2 hours away in Chattanooga, though. I could commute if necessary. 
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/21/2010 8:28:20 AM
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I have started many small businesses and sold them after a period of time.
Each and every time I got the idea while working a full time job.
I watched for "bottlenecks" in processes, service, or products and tried to find a faster, better and/or cheaper solution.
A second method that I use is I take what I learned and copy it to a similar industry. A rough example would be if you came up for something for football teams, that methodology, product, or service could be applied to other team sports. Maybe rugby, soccer, or baseball.
Most people try to come up with a brilliant and new service, or product. It is a pain and takes too long.
By the way, manhattan42's comments at least half of them are correct. Starting and running a business is a not just a full time, but a 24/7, 365 day job. It requires determination, and serious grit to continue after repeated failures, disappointments, and threat to your personal livelihood.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/30/2010 7:44:34 PM
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You can always start a website.
It may not be profitable at first, but at least you have something to show for periods of unemployment or, if you use it to advance the kingdom, just add it to your "judgmement day resume"!
At least, that is what I did.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/30/2010 8:03:23 PM
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What you propose is called 'self-employment' and does not involve 9-5 working hours.
It involves 6AM to 12Am...18 hour each and every day workings hours...
And wages lower than minimum in most cases....
lol Manhattan, I gotta agree with you.  At least for the first couple of years starting up.
We are in real-estate rentals. So, it fits with dh's goal of being self-employed, and "free". But he has had to work his tail off for several years to even get close to making a liveable income. He had a 40 hr work week, and there were quite a few weeks where he also put in 40 hours on the rentals.  And what we've discovered is that on paper, rental income looks pretty good. But the reality is, the income is not guaranteed, but the expenses certainly are. Because he's been out of the country and not able to be on top of the house situation himself, the manager has spent about triple what dh would on fixing problems because she doesn't have time to shop around, haggle, or fix it herself, while at the same time we've had *three* tenants miss payments, and one tenant had to be evicted. 
I think self employment is a worthwhile goal. However, I think very few people can make it with self employment if they're thinking they're going to be working *less* than a regular job.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/31/2010 10:05:28 AM
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vicbhe
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the income is not guaranteed, but the expenses certainly are.
I like that.
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RE: Making money without a 9-5 job. - 1/31/2010 2:55:48 PM
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Trust in God but this is what I do...
CDs...The interest rates are low but they are worth it...your money grows for you daily without a 9 to 5.
I want to eventually get into stocks 2
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