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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/24/2007 1:30:35 PM
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Miss Giggles
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Thanks for the links, I'd starve if I had to grow all my own food.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/30/2007 9:37:54 AM
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Soft Drink Sweetener Linked to Diabetes in Kids
August 24, 2007
Researchers have found new evidence that soda pop sweetened with high-fructose corn syrup may contribute to the development of diabetes, particularly in children.
In a laboratory study of commonly consumed carbonated beverages, the scientists found that drinks containing the syrup had high levels of reactive compounds that have been shown by others to have the potential to trigger cell and tissue damage that could cause the disease, which is at epidemic levels.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/30/2007 12:50:38 PM
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Well DUH!
Not to mention snacks, to-go lunches, fast food, "juices" and all the other stuff they might be eating.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/30/2007 1:09:24 PM
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People are that clueless but you know what, at least the science is starting to show the truth.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/30/2007 2:50:58 PM
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High furctose corn syrup is garbage. As was pointed out earlier, it is cheaper. Since this stuff is actually sweeter than real sugar, manufacturers can use less of it to get the same effect from more sugar (as a side note, Coca Cola bottled in Mexico used to use cane suger until this year).
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 7:58:44 AM
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Yeah, so many people trust the FDA as having health as their main priority. Unfortunately, "health" is a lot lower on the list than I think it should be- under cultural expectations, economy, lobbyists, etc.
I have a hard time finding organics and I live in a big city. It's easy to find a small variety of organic veggies, but who wants to eat carrots, potatoes, and apples all day every day? I guess being modern has spoiled me to a variety of food on demand.
Speaking of such, I got Omnivore's Delimma, and look forward to reading it.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 10:24:56 AM
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who wants to eat carrots, potatoes, and apples all day every day?
Those are three pretty variable ingredients, though! Have you looked for a co-op?
Information about healthy eating has always been around, most people just ignored it due to the stigma of "hippie" or "health nut."
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 10:45:27 AM
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Maybe I should look at potatoes, carrots, and apples the same way I look at chicken- I can spice it up all different ways so I could eat it every day and never tire of it. I have looked for a co-op, but haven't found one. I have also looked at ordering online, but a lot of the quantities of produce are too large for just dh and I- or it's more expensive than Whole Foods is.
I was taught to beware of "healthy eating" because it was just another liberal fad run by people who would rather save a tree than a human life. If you eat healthy, you have to be into burning inscense and new age philosophies. Good Christians don't shop in those healthfood stores where they have alters to Budda and espouse eastern philosophy. If I ate healthy I would be supporting all that and identifying myself with it- which is wrong for a Christian.
Unfortunately, that meant that I had to "throw the baby out with the bath water." I see now how stupid that was, but many Christians still believe that kind of stuff.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 10:50:16 AM
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This article is about the tainted toothpaste from China but it also discusses the pertinent issue of the FDA not up to task for inspecting food and other products for safety.
Dr. Mercola's take on the tainted toothpaste and other issues with FDA and our food.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 11:13:11 AM
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I was taught to beware of "healthy eating" because it was just another liberal fad run by people who would rather save a tree than a human life. If you eat healthy, you have to be into burning inscense and new age philosophies. Good Christians don't shop in those healthfood stores where they have alters to Budda and espouse eastern philosophy.
Seriously? That's so sad!
I mean, that's kinda what I was referring to, but to be taught stuff like that?
At least you see through it, now!
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 11:18:24 AM
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I was taught to beware of "healthy eating" because it was just another liberal fad run by people who would rather save a tree than a human life. If you eat healthy, you have to be into burning inscense and new age philosophies. Good Christians don't shop in those healthfood stores where they have alters to Budda and espouse eastern philosophy. If I ate healthy I would be supporting all that and identifying myself with it- which is wrong for a Christian.
Isn't that funny? I was raised to think almost exactly the opposite.  Our church greatly emphasized whole wheat, whole milk, honey, natural remedies, etc. Sure, some of that coincided with the health-food craze of the 70's, but it was just part of church doctrine on healthy living and caring for our bodily temples.
I remember going to a church friend's house when I was 11 or 12, and being totally shocked that they were eating sandwiches on white bread.  I didn't think it was a sin, per se... but close! 
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 11:28:17 AM
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Maybe I should look at potatoes, carrots, and apples the same way I look at chicken- I can spice it up all different ways so I could eat it every day and never tire of it. I have looked for a co-op, but haven't found one. I have also looked at ordering online, but a lot of the quantities of produce are too large for just dh and I- or it's more expensive than Whole Foods is.
I was taught to beware of "healthy eating" because it was just another liberal fad run by people who would rather save a tree than a human life. If you eat healthy, you have to be into burning inscense and new age philosophies. Good Christians don't shop in those healthfood stores where they have alters to Budda and espouse eastern philosophy. If I ate healthy I would be supporting all that and identifying myself with it- which is wrong for a Christian.
Unfortunately, that meant that I had to "throw the baby out with the bath water." I see now how stupid that was, but many Christians still believe that kind of stuff.
I shop at Kroger's and they are a very good selection of organic produce and a nice organic grocery section. It's as big as the health food store and a bit cheaper too. However, it was a long time coming.
I wasn't brought up with the eating healthy was likened to new age but I do remember when the new age hysteria was running rampant. I moved to Hawaii though around that time so there were enough hippie Christians who helped me see through it. Although I didn't follow that advice when I got caught up in the hype of the lowfat is better craze. That was the worst advice I could follow with my health issue. It took me a few years to get that noise out of my head and follow what I knew to be the right way for me. At least now it's not just the fringe folks who understand the issue.
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Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 12:28:41 PM
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Growing up I thought white bread was disgusting. My sandwiches were always whole wheat.
I guess growing up overseas helped a lot, too, since they eat better than we do, generally - well, did.
So pumpernickel and shopping at the town center market was the norm.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 1:56:35 PM
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p31woman, may I ask how old you are? I am 33 and it was perfectly normal to have white bread in our home/ friend's houses. No one ever said whole grain was healthier. White bread was enriched!! And our church (SBC) didn't really address the issue of what was healthy, although we were admonished to treat our bodies as a temple. All things had been declared as clean by Peter, so all things were edible. What to eat wasn't really addressed at church.
I'm 34. Of course, I grew up eating kosher also, so there was already a church emphasis on food, there. The other factor was my dad and the way he was raised-- my grandmother has been a health nut since the 40's, even before it was "cool." He insisted on wheat bread, a variety of vegetables at every meal (except breakfast), etc., because he learned that from her.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 8/31/2007 4:44:21 PM
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Yeah, so many people trust the FDA as having health as their main priority. Unfortunately, "health" is a lot lower on the list than I think it should be- under cultural expectations, economy, lobbyists, etc.
I have a hard time finding organics and I live in a big city. It's easy to find a small variety of organic veggies, but who wants to eat carrots, potatoes, and apples all day every day? I guess being modern has spoiled me to a variety of food on demand.
Speaking of such, I got Omnivore's Delimma, and look forward to reading it.
Do you have a farmer's market near you? They are great. Even big cities have them. There's also something out there called CSA - Community Supported Agriculture. You pay a few hundred dollars at the beginning of the growing season, and every week you get a box of what's been grown. For more info or to locate a farmer's market or CSA near you, go to www.localharvest.org.
Kevin
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/1/2007 6:32:03 PM
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I'm 34. Of course, I grew up eating kosher also, so there was already a church emphasis on food, there. The other factor was my dad and the way he was raised-- my grandmother has been a health nut since the 40's, even before it was "cool." He insisted on wheat bread, a variety of vegetables at every meal (except breakfast), etc., because he learned that from her.[/font]
You are super fortunate to have eaten well your whole life. I wish I hadn't eaten junk and been caught up in politically correct nutrition for 2/3 of my life.
Kevin- we have a farmer's market downtown, but very little is organic. I'll look into the CSA. That sounds interesting.
Ofa23- I felt the same way about throwing out food that was junk. Then I thought of giving it to the poor. I did some of that, but then I felt guilty for giving away food that I considered trash. I don't know what is right to do, but I have experienced the feelings you spoke of.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/2/2007 4:33:25 PM
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Well, white rice has always been a staple in my family. I grew up eating dishes prepared with rice, such as Jambalaya, Red Beans & Rice, Gumbo, Dirty Rice, Paella, Arroz Con Pollo, etc. These dishes just cannot be made with brown rice, because you'll just waste expensive ingredients such as saffron (which are overpowered by the strong taste of the rice).
But, beans to the rescue!
I eat 2 cups of beans every single day, in different forms (and drink plenty of water to keep it moving!).
Fresh fruit and veggies were also served up heavily -- I still finish off every lunch with two stalks of plain celery (it cleans your teeth). Mom also made my sandwiches with what she called "brown bread" to make sure I got my "ruffage." Confession -- I still eat everything my mom used to feed me, with the EXCEPTION of the whole wheat bread (blech!).
Beans are delicious though -- and garbanzos are my favorites (falafel, anyone)?
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/2/2007 7:46:01 PM
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I am from Cajun country and while brown rice isn't quite the same in gumbo it's not too bad. I actually like it in my jambalaya. Sugar Busters was and is still popular here and the Brennan's Sugar Busters cookbook has some nice dishes using the more whole foods alternatives. I did buy some "cajun" brown jasmine rice Saturday at the farmer's market. I hope it's as good as the regular jasmine rice.
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Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/2/2007 9:38:43 PM
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I am from Cajun country and while brown rice isn't quite the same in gumbo it's not too bad.
You don't mention beans at all. My mom is Creole (Creole and Cajun are different, I think), and I just grew up eating a lot of beans. Maybe it isn't just the Louisiana thing, but we are here in California, with a lot of Middle Easterners, and Hispranics from different countries such as Mexico and Puerto Rico. Bean eaters, all!
ETA: OK, I admit it. I can't ABIDE brown rice. Blech! Blech! Blech!
(OK, I feel better now.)
< Message edited by BeesKnees -- 9/2/2007 9:52:53 PM >
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Kirkland brand boldly advertises on the package that there is no high fructose corn syrup contained in the bread and its at a reasonable price.
