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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/17/2007 7:52:10 PM   
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I have just had a major lightbulb moment and that is MSG. It's also in everything processed including a lot of our "healthy" meats.

http://www.msgtruth.org/obesity.htm

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http://www.msgmyth.com/

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/18/2007 3:38:20 PM   
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I'm very glad I'm not a laboratory rat! BTW, have you ever been curious why the only fat Chinese you see are the ones who just eat Western food?

Anyway, I eat lots of MSG without any bad effects - mainly because I always wear my aluminum foil hat. But now that I've heard reliable gossip that aluminum causes brain and liver cancer, I have something else to worry about now.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/18/2007 4:38:29 PM   
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I stopped aluminum years ago (I didn't really wear deodorant back then, either, but I specifically avoid it now) because I'd heard it was linked to Alzheimer's.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/19/2007 9:42:46 AM   
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Ok, now that I'm so overwhelmed by all of this information, how do I change our my families eating habits!!!! Dh went on Atkins a few years ago and we started reading labels. I was shocked at how many things have HFCS in it! I have friends who do gluten free for health reasons and I'm starting to wonder just how much out food choices affect us. We have very heavy family members including myself, who really need to get that weight off. Will eliminating HFCS do this? I know it's expensive to buy organic meat, but it it really worth it? I never thought about cornfed vs grass fed cow before. Hmmm .?

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/19/2007 10:24:07 AM   
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Stampinlady, your food choices ABSOLUTELY do affect you!!! In surprising ways, even. Once I began to make healthy eating choices, not only did my health issues diminish (then disappear) so did my anxiety. Sugar (and HFCS is in that category) does some really strange things to our bodies.

My teenage son used to have mood swings, but when we took him off sugar (and refined flour, etc.) it was an immediate difference. I have a friend whose young son has ADHD and they eat fast food every single day. I have wondered if he would need meds if his diet was different.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/19/2007 5:13:00 PM   
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I have had similar experiences with sugar & refined flour. My whole world changed when I stopped consuming sugary things regularly. I felt like a different person, and I didn't even know I felt badly before. It was subtile changes, yet earth shattering.

I have seen fewer results from eating 7-9 fruits & veggies per day, whole grains only, dairy and meats. and fewer results from going organic... however, my insides are as healthy as can be. At this time in my life I should be having my hand slapped by my doctor. I am at the age where my parents and grandparents began having to take daily meds. Earlier this year I was upset over not being able to lose weight, so I went to the doctor to have tests run to find out why. She ran the normal tests and then I went back for her to test anything else she could think of. Every single test came back perfect. There is nothing my body is deficient in. So I am trusting that my healthy eating habits are doing me good in ways that I am unable to measure.

IMO, it all comes down to what you believe. Do you think modern foods are improved? Do you think the FDA protects us? Do you believe low fat is the answer? Do you think a more primitave diet is correct? You can find support for whatever you want to believe. I think you just have to make a decision and stick with it. Don't panic, just make a change here and there and eventually you will be eating healthy in all areas.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/19/2007 8:37:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: StephK

Soft Drink Sweetener Linked to Diabetes in Kids






August 24, 2007


Researchers have found new evidence that soda pop sweetened with high-fructose corn syrup may contribute to the development of diabetes, particularly in children.

In a laboratory study of commonly consumed carbonated beverages, the scientists found that drinks containing the syrup had high levels of reactive compounds that have been shown by others to have the potential to trigger cell and tissue damage that could cause the disease, which is at epidemic levels.


Uh oh!! Diabetes runs in my family. I need to exclued HFCS from my diet!!!!

kim
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/19/2007 10:03:12 PM   
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Let's have some fun, shall we? LEt's look at all those wonderful chemicals in our foods:

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Go take a look at those labels and, when you come back to finish this article, I will tell you why you may be having such a hard time flattening your abs, and why, even if they are flat, you may feel so dull every day!


If you did this little exercise, you may be surprised at the number of multi-syllable words that look more like they should be the ingredients of super glue than of something you’re eating. It is time to enlighten you with regard to what some of these ingredients are and what they can do to you. The gigantic and often strange words listed as ingredients (where food items are supposed to be!) are various concoctions used to color, stabilize, emulsify, bleach, texturize, soften, preserve, sweeten, add or cover smells, and flavor! In case you were wondering just how many of these little chemicals were sneaking into your mouth each year, current statistics say that the FDA lists approximately 2800 international food additives and about 3,000 chemicals, which are deliberately added to our food supply. When considering the number of chemicals used in the process of growing and processing food, by the food to the time it reaches our stomach we have consumed between 10,000 and 15,000 chemicals a day! (1)

It turns out that food scientists have determined how to manipulate the part of your brain that controls food cravings called the appestat. The appestat constantly monitors the nutrient content of you blood and only when fifty-one specific nutrients are present at their proper levels will an individual feel entirely full and satisfied. Food scientists have found that by adding or subtracting some of these nutrients, they can manipulate your sense of hunger and satiety. While the research is still incomplete, it’s believed that that adding excess fat, sugar and salt to a food tends to make people over eat (4). This is why both sugar and salt show up in some of the strangest places. For example, would you have expected to find sugar in sandwich meats? Have a look at the ingredients on the package in your refrigerator and look for words ending with “ose”. Anything ending with this suffix is a sugar. While you’re at it, look at your catsup bottle, your canned soups, medicines and even cigarettes! How sweet of them to play such tricks on your appetite centers. If you are overweight, you are more than likely one of millions of victims of chemical manipulation!


http://www.chekinstitute.com/articles.cfm?select=42

Here's another article which might be interesting: http://www.newstarget.com/019957.html

I suggest you all read the whole article. It will open your eyes to processed foods. I believe it's those processed foods that make folks obese and why cancer is killing us. I try to avoid foods with sugar or chemicals and I've never felt better.

kim

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 9/19/2007 10:09:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stampinlady

Ok, now that I'm so overwhelmed by all of this information, how do I change our my families eating habits!!!! Dh went on Atkins a few years ago and we started reading labels. I was shocked at how many things have HFCS in it! I have friends who do gluten free for health reasons and I'm starting to wonder just how much out food choices affect us. We have very heavy family members including myself, who really need to get that weight off. Will eliminating HFCS do this? I know it's expensive to buy organic meat, but it it really worth it? I never thought about cornfed vs grass fed cow before. Hmmm .?



Here's what I do, Stampin. I only shop the perimeter of the grocery store. That's where the store keeps the unprocessed foods. Also if you do go in between the aisles, look at the top and bottom shelves, that's where alot of organic foods are kept. Food manufatures buy shelf space, the best spots are at eye level. REad your food labels. If you can't pronounce the ingredients, then don't eat it. There are plenty of dressings, rice, jams, ice cream ect that are made without chemicals. These are what I look for. No chemicals, only pure foods.

If you want mashed pototoes for dinner, then make them, don't buy the boxed potatoes. Instead of Twinkies for a snack, eat fruit or veggies. I for one, love berries or apples and cheese. Instead of having a lunch of processed lunch meat, chips, and a pudding cup, try chicken breast, a salad or veggies, and an apple or orange. Instead of Hamburger helper for dinner, make Eggplant lasanga or homemade tocos or crabcakes, rice and veggies. I only eat foods with no chemicals and I've been able to keep the weight off for 8 years now. When you start eating right, you'll feel so much better.

May I also add, I eat a low carb diet b/c I discovered high carbs gave me 3 day migranes, so now I only eat low carb foods and guess what? No more migranes!!

kim

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 10/2/2007 11:30:10 AM   
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Uh-Oh: FDA Now Calls Stevia Unsafe

The South American herb stevia, which is used as a natural sweetener, has been called an “unsafe food additive” by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

The FDA sent a letter to Hain Celestial Group Inc, maker of Celestial Seasonings herbal teas, saying the stevia used in some of their teas may be dangerous to blood sugar and reproductive, cardiovascular, and renal systems.



It appears that Cargil and Coca-Cola are working on a "safer" version. Artificial sweeteners are just fine and dandy but one that has been used for 1500 years isn't.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 10/2/2007 11:37:08 AM   
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I wish I could just once see a recommendation by the FDA that didn't make me think less of them.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 10/2/2007 11:56:09 AM   
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I know what you mean. It's not good when government is in bed with big corporations. They forget who they work for, we the people, not we the international conglomerates.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 10/2/2007 12:04:07 PM   
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They ought to be helping us wade through all these "scientific" studies and finding flaws and tricks in the studies... not perpetuating them and making up their own rules to hide scientific evidence. It really makes me mad how they confuse the issues so the health of the American People is lessened instead of raised. They are such a joke and it is frightening that so many Americans rely on what the FDA reports.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 10/2/2007 12:16:06 PM   
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I know it is frustrating. I just want to be able to find regular unadulterated real food. The more I read about how things are done the more disgusted I get.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/25/2007 9:11:14 AM   
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I found a copy of William Dufty's Sugar Blues and it's very eye opening.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/25/2007 12:32:33 PM   
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Did anyone see the feature on CNN regarding corn growing in the midwest, especially Iowa, the money available to corn growers vs other vegetable growers, and how this has contributed the obesity mess in America.

There is a senator in Iowa who agreed that corn growing has contributed to huge mess, something that folks need to follow.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/25/2007 12:39:40 PM   
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No but the book "Omnivore's Dilemma" by Michael Pollan discusses the corn subsidies , among other things, in great detail.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/25/2007 1:22:16 PM   
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I know when I eliminated all corn from my diet I felt tons better and dropped a lot of weight. I got lax and well found what I lost. I want to read Omnivore's Dilemma too.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/25/2007 2:33:21 PM   
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Do you mean corn as a vegetable, or in some other form?
This one is new to me.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/25/2007 3:00:08 PM   
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No not as a vegetable. Its made into high fructose corn syrup but has tons of other uses. Their is an example in the book of a twinkie and it is almost all corn in some form.
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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/25/2007 3:12:52 PM   
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Corn is in just about everything processed in some form or another.


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If we are what we eat, Americans are corn and soy

* Story Highlights
* Biologist: 'We're like corn chips walking'
* Soybeans account for 10 percent of calories in U.S., NIH doctor says
* More omega-3 fatty acids in diet can improve mental health, he says

By Dr. Sanjay Gupta
CNN Chief Medical Correspondent

ATLANTA (CNN) -- To a degree some may find hard to swallow, science is proving the old adage "you are what you eat."

Proteins and fats in your food are incorporated into your body and brain with potentially profound effects on your health and even your behavior.

Todd Dawson, a plant biologist at the University of California-Berkeley, can test a strand of hair to determine how much corn is in your diet or mine by looking for a form of carbon found in corn.

"We are what we eat with respect to carbon, for sure. So if we eat a particular kind of food, and it has a particular kind of carbon in it, that's recorded in us, in our tissues, in our hair, in our fingernails, in the muscles," Dawson says.

Dawson tested a strand of my hair: 69 percent of the carbon came from corn.

This may seem high, but it is typical for Americans.

"We're like corn chips walking because we really have a very, very large fraction of corn in our diets, and we actually can't help it because it's an additive in so many of the foods we find on the market shelves," Dawson says.


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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/25/2007 3:57:40 PM   
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Ah, thanks. HFCS I already try to avoid, although its amazing all of the things you wouldn't expect it to be in. Soybean oil is a new one on me, but it does make sense.

One of my general rules is that if I can't pronounce the ingredients I try not to eat it- its amazing how many "foods" that cuts out!

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/15/2008 3:03:10 PM   
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I was reminded of this thread when I received Dr. Mercola's newsletter discussing how the Corn Grower's Association new commercials on HFCS.

Corn Syrup's New Disguise

According to the Corn Refiners Association, high-fructose corn syrup contains the same amount of calories as cane and beet sugar, is metabolized by the body the same way as these sweeteners are, and is an all-natural product.

Their current ad campaign insists that high-fructose corn syrup is just like honey, which is made by enzymes in a bee's abdomen -- as opposed to the enzymes and acids in centrifuges, ion exchange columns and liquid chromatographers used to make high-fructose corn syrup.

High-fructose corn syrup could be all-natural, if cornstarch happened to fall into a vat of alpha-amylase, soak there for a while, then trickle into another vat of glucoamylase, get strained to remove the Aspergillus fungus likely growing on top, and then find its way into some industrial-grade D-xylose isomerase.

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/15/2008 4:18:05 PM   
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It's nutty... those commercials make me so angry!!!

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RE: Let's Discuss the Evils of High Fructose Corn Syrup... - 11/15/2008 10:28:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HisCovenant

I wish I could just once see a recommendation by the FDA that didn't make me think less of them.



Well, the FDA is getting better. I don't know about the food department, but the drug department approved of the first botanical drug in almost 50 years.


Green Tea - Truly a Medicine
We’ve often referred to green tea as a “steaming cup of medicine,” but now the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has made its medicinal status official. A special extract of green tea has been approved for use as a prescription drug for the external treatment of genital and perianal warts caused by human papilloma virus (HPV).

Polyphenon E Ointment (also called Veregen) is the first prescription botanical drug approved by the FDA under the drug amendments of 1962 requiring that drugs be proven both safe and effective before being marketed in the U.S.

Two phase-III clinical trials have shown that applying this ointment three times daily for up to 16 weeks is highly effective in the clearing of genital warts, with clearance of all or most warts (> 50%) seen in approximately 78% of patients. The ointment apparently works by activating the body's defenses and inhibiting some of the major functions of the papilloma virus.

http://www.greentealibrary.com/Green%20Tea%20News.htm

This website was started by Nadine Taylor, a registered dietician.


Nadine Taylor, M.S., R.D., is a Registered Dietitian, noted author, popular speaker, and Chair of the Women's Health Council of the American Nutraceutical Association. She also serves as Associate Editor of the Journal of the American Nutraceutical Association.

She combines a solid background in "traditional" nutrition with the latest information on foods, nutraceuticals and alternative healing approaches. She presents a unique blend of cutting-edge yet scientifically valid information in her books and speeches.


Anyway, maybe that was that one thing you wanted to hear about the FDA.

Soli Deo Gloria,
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