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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 3:25:26 PM
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extra_mile
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Extramile, personal attacks like those in your last post will get you booted from these forums if you keep it up. Just thought you should be warned since you're still new here.
Hi, thanks for letting me know. I don't mean to sound that way ever, I like talking things out with others. Please share what part sounded that way so I can change it. Thanks
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 3:35:15 PM
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I know you like to aruge with everything on this board, it's just what you do.
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This has nothing to do with anything you are saying, like normal. Maybe it's me, but these two remarks are pretty snarky. With a total of 32 posts you really shouldn't generalize about anybody.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 3:45:55 PM
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I know you like to aruge with everything on this board, it's just what you do.
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This has nothing to do with anything you are saying, like normal. Maybe it's me, but these two remarks are pretty snarky. With a total of 32 posts you really shouldn't generalize about anybody.
Yea, your right the 2nd one could be taken wrong, I don't mean all posts, just this post on this topic. I hope that makes since? Came out wrong I guess. Sorry.
As for the 1st one, I thought this was well known? He plays the other side of the fence for many topics that I have read or been part of. I thought this was done to keep it interesting?
I will try to make it more clear next time, Thanks
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/3/2008 10:59:03 PM
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I'm willing to overlook the personal jabs and reply to the comment of substance....
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So we are clear, Do You think it is ok for your wife to have a sex scene with another person or a Long Kissing scene where they are all over each other, (do I have to spell it out)? And your wife would be ok if you did this to another woman?
There's a world of difference between a kiss (even a long one) and a sex scene. The Bible strictly forbids sexual intercourse outside of marriage, but it does not speak to something as innocuous as a lip lock. Sorry.
And if you and your wife are uncomfortable with a kissing scene in a movie, then if you're ever an actor I would say hold to your guns and don't do it. But don't superimpose your conviction on me and assume that because it is wrong for you, that it must be wrong for me as well.
I applaud Kirk Cameron for sticking to his convictions in this area, even if I do find it a little funny....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/4/2008 2:11:26 AM
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Question: How do you know they are "ATHEISTS"?
Does giving a "1 star" vote equate "Atheist"???
Check out the IMDB message board for the movie sometime.
Additionally, check out the votes for Bill Maher's religion-hating "Religulous":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0815241/ratings
Pretty well shows who runs IMDB.
< Message edited by TheLaughingMan -- 10/4/2008 8:36:02 PM >
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/4/2008 8:50:31 PM
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Did anyone catch some of the credits of who played who? I noticed that Kirk's screen parents (the couple who played them) were really husband and wife :)
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/5/2008 6:46:06 PM
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Chiming in here on the movie. My wife and I saw it last night and both agreed it was BAD acting but a good story that we both got into. Woman next to me was sobbing uncontrolably at the end, lots of moist eyes walking out.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/5/2008 9:58:06 PM
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Finally got to see it Thursday. I agree, the story was well done. Some of the acting by the firefighters was decent while the rest was pretty bad. Kirk Cameron did a great job acting and made his character believable. I see promise in these young film makers. The next flick they do should come with a decent budget after the total this one has made. 12 mil after two weeks. Movie made 4 mil this weekend coming in 8th spot. Nice hold over for the second week.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/5/2008 11:46:55 PM
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Did anyone catch some of the credits of who played who? I noticed that Kirk's screen parents (the couple who played them) were really husband and wife :)
That's awesome!
Did you notice the credit for the dog?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/5/2008 11:48:12 PM
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Chiming in here on the movie. My wife and I saw it last night and both agreed it was BAD acting but a good story that we both got into. Woman next to me was sobbing uncontrolably at the end, lots of moist eyes walking out.
I wouldn't call it bad acting. Certainly amateurish, but not bad. They should be able to hire an acting coach or two for the next film. 
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/5/2008 11:50:30 PM
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12 mil after two weeks. Movie made 4 mil this weekend coming in 8th spot. Nice hold over for the second week.
On the film's blog (http://fireproofthemovie.blogspot.com/), the creators comment on how Hollywood thought the film was a one-week wonder. It remains in the top 10 this week, completely destroying that idea! Praise God! Makes me want to dance.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/6/2008 11:03:18 AM
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It remains in the top 10 this week, completely destroying that idea! Praise God! Makes me want to dance.
Bad films stay in the top ten for more than one week all the time.
I am amazed at how much we as Christians are content to not only accept, but celebrate mediocrity....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/6/2008 11:12:54 AM
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Chiming in here on the movie. My wife and I saw it last night and both agreed it was BAD acting but a good story that we both got into. Woman next to me was sobbing uncontrolably at the end, lots of moist eyes walking out.
I wouldn't call it bad acting. Certainly amateurish, but not bad. They should be able to hire an acting coach or two for the next film.
That would be a good idea.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/6/2008 11:24:16 AM
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Kudos to Kirk for using his wife in that scene, but c'mon guys, onscreen kisses just aren't that big of a deal....
For most people, no they aren't...but for some people, yes they are
hollywood or not, it's not about stereotyping
It's about what is right for the person...and sometimes an actor holds their ground and sometimes they don't - sometimes it's a hill to die on, sometimes it's not
I am generally more mystified by the license taken by Christian actors trying to justify a neck/shoulders sex scene (not talking about kissing either and it's more than obvious) as "art" when in fact, they just didn't want to rock the boat, get fined or thrown off set by suggesting other ways to get the "we had sex" across to the viewer about the character they're portraying
Case in point...Eric Close and Poppy Montgomery in Without A Trace. A season or two back, they had an affair...graphically portrayed. Meanwhile Eric is giving an interview to a Christian magazine about working with unbelievers and how he tries to be a light.
seriously?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/6/2008 5:22:25 PM
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Tafkam:
I still have to say "If you don't support movies with the content you want from a movie (even when it's "Mediocre" you won't get more of those movies. You certainly will never the see the higher quality movie you want."
Support movies that exhibit the content you want to see!!! We don't see many Christian movies or conservative movies for that matter, but when one comes along (even if its mediocre) get behind it. If studios see there is a thriving market for this content then the filmakers who are willing to put it together will be given the funding to do these movies more often.
Yes, there is a clash of ideals in the business and conservative/Christian values will be shot down many times, but it is all still business and money talks. Prove to them it will make money and the quality will come along.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/6/2008 5:32:19 PM
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I still have to say "If you don't support movies with the content you want from a movie (even when it's "Mediocre" you won't get more of those movies. You certainly will never the see the higher quality movie you want."
Mediocrity aside, even if the Sherwood films had top notch production values, I would not be able to support them because of the horrid, pie-in-the-sky, God-as-the-genie-that-grants-all-your-wishes theology they preach. It's not realistic, it's not Scriptural, and it's extremely unhealthy as a witnessing tool.
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Prove to them it will make money and the quality will come along.
Name one trend in movies that bears this out. STAR WARS and JAWS, both huge moneymakers, spawned a slew of imitators, most even more cheaply made and obvious ripoffs. HALLOWEEN made a ton of money, and producers soon learned they could make a slasher film for a million bucks and turn it into 20 or 30 million. But how many of these follow up films were actually of decent quality?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/6/2008 6:57:42 PM
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Mediocrity aside, even if the Sherwood films had top notch production values, I would not be able to support them because of the horrid, pie-in-the-sky, God-as-the-genie-that-grants-all-your-wishes theology they preach. It's not realistic, it's not Scriptural, and it's extremely unhealthy as a witnessing tool.
I didn't know baptist churches with baptist doctrine taught word of faith theology?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/7/2008 2:40:58 PM
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I have to say that we went to see the movie on the day it opened and we absolutely loved it. My husband and I have been where they were, we were on the brink of divorce. I wish that someone had given one of us the Love Dare and told us to do this.
As far as the acting and the budget of the film are concerned, I thought the acting was fine and it did not look to me like a low budget production. The only kind of movies that we go to see are ones that have the values and themes that are imoportant to us, and I applaud Sherwood productions for having the courage and the backbone to stand up to hollywood and say this is the right thing to do and then to do it. So much of what is out there today is trash. We are trying to teach our daughters how to be modest and godly women and it is hard to do when the entertainment industry takes everything that we believe in and stomps it into the ground.
I am thankful that there are people out there willing to make movies that I would not be ashamed to take my kids to. Thank you Sherwood pictures and keep up the good work!!
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/8/2008 4:08:17 PM
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I am thankful that there are people out there willing to make movies that I would not be ashamed to take my kids to. Thank you Sherwood pictures and keep up the good work!!
I totally agree! My husband and I saw it over the weekend and we throughly enjoyed it. It is the type of movie that I would recommend and would see it again several times.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/8/2008 10:01:21 PM
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Did anyone catch the CNN story about this movie being hit?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/9/2008 8:57:33 AM
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Well, dh & I went to see this movie Tuesday night (it was our anniversary)! We thought it was really good! Dh went into it not very enthused (he thought it'd be a chick flick) but he really liked it! I thought most of the actors did a good job! I especially liked the guy who played Caleb's friend at the fire station & dh liked the guy who played his father!
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/9/2008 1:11:19 PM
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CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THE MOVIE!!! it's not in our area but we are going to buy it when it comes to DVD saw facing the giants have to buy it also the church that makes these movies is really doing a wonderful ministry. i pray that they keep making the movies. and oh more little neat FYI, we were watching Wrechted? and Kirk was on there and he said in a scene that he was suppose to kiss the wife that is not his real wife? he brought in his wife Chealsy and she stood in for the kissing scene which i thought was AWESOME he did not want to kiss another women Kirk is faithful to his wife 100%
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/9/2008 1:13:35 PM
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kirk does not have a baby face at all, in fact in this new movie he looks very much more mature than in the left behind movies and we own all of them as well.
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