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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/9/2010 8:16:24 PM
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SonInMe1
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He is knowledgeable, articulate, and well educated.
Obama has made his share of public speaking errors...and a teleprompter is never far from him.
I've listened to his speaking style some and it does not impress me, at all.
Between the polished politician and Palin, I'll take Palin....not that I think she is a viable candidate but I tire of the career politician and their smooth ways.
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/10/2010 9:01:17 AM
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Eutychus
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Yes, you often cite your conservative bona fides before disagreeing with conservative positions and leaders.
That's because the first thing I encounter in this folder when calling an airhead an airhead or criticize a moronic Republican action are snide remarks about my being a leftist liberal.
I refuse to mindlessly march lock-step with the party-line when it is wrong or stupid. And I refuse to worship just any person put forth as a national Republican leader if they aren't competent to lead at that level.
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/10/2010 9:15:11 AM
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I disagree with Obama 's political philosophy. But that doesn't make him an airhead. He is knowledgeable, articulate, and well educated. Palin, OTOH, is a mile wide but an inch deep.
A Knowledgeable, articulate, and well educated America-hating Marxism...What good is that!
That was in response to Rockwall's remark that Obama could be said to be "attractive, likable, and an airhead too."
Do you seriously consider Obama to be an airhead?
And, IMO, phrases like "America-hating Marxism" is what is wrong with my Republican party today. Not only is a phrase like that a mischaracterization, its sole purpose is to inflame anyone who disagrees with you and to inspire hate with those who agree by reducing the opposition to evil caricatures. It is a tactic I've seen used to portray a whole race of people in order to shutdown meaningful dialogue.
But, then, I can't recall encountering meaningful dialogue in this folder in recent memory...
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/10/2010 12:16:30 PM
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Yes, you often cite your conservative bona fides before disagreeing with conservative positions and leaders.
That's because the first thing I encounter in this folder when calling an airhead an airhead or criticize a moronic Republican action are snide remarks about my being a leftist liberal.
I refuse to mindlessly march lock-step with the party-line when it is wrong or stupid. And I refuse to worship just any person put forth as a national Republican leader if they aren't competent to lead at that level.
Who's asking you to worship? Conservatives aren't the ones who put their leaders up as Savior's who will bring peace on Earth and stop the oceans from rising.
And what's more snide than calling a female politician an 'airhead'? Based on what? Her gender? Her looks? Reagan would never do that to a fellow Republican, or conservative. She was a successful governor of a state who took on corruption in her own party and won. She energized McCain's weak campaign and cleaned Biden's clock in their debate (okay, no great feat). Those are not the accomplishments of an airhead.
Seems to me the ones who are blindly following shallow arguments are the ones who indulge themselves in the snide, adolescent pop culture campaign to destroy Sarah Palin.
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/10/2010 12:47:31 PM
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But, then, I can't recall encountering meaningful dialogue in this folder in recent memory...
*pines away for the inflammatory language ban*
sigh. thank God we all still talk trash, it's really enriching us 
A good friend of mine died this morning from a massive heart attack. He owned a local barbershop where men met, not just to get haircuts, but to talk about politics (local & national) and, sometimes religion. We could disagree without calling each other names or make ludicrous & inflammatory comments about each other's leaders (or each other) if we ran out of adult things to say.
After experiences like that, I usually feel a compelling need to take a very long, very hot shower whenever I visit threads like this...
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/10/2010 12:54:34 PM
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Seems to me the ones who are blindly following shallow arguments are the ones who indulge themselves in the snide, adolescent pop culture campaign to destroy Sarah Palin.
My impression of Palin has come from watching and listening to her, sans the new masters of Republican dogma.
She needs nobody to harm her image. She only needs someone to shore it up with Pollyanna platitudes while ignoring the obvious.
The empress has no clothes.
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/10/2010 3:18:45 PM
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Seems to me the ones who are blindly following shallow arguments are the ones who indulge themselves in the snide, adolescent pop culture campaign to destroy Sarah Palin.
My impression of Palin has come from watching and listening to her, sans the new masters of Republican dogma.
She needs nobody to harm her image. She only needs someone to shore it up with Pollyanna platitudes while ignoring the obvious.
The empress has no clothes.
And how is that obvious? What comparable accomplishments do her critics have over her?
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The empress has no clothes.
I'm equally sorry to hear this. (there was no "vomiting smiley")
The only ones that appear naked in this exchange are the shallow, snarky libs who can only spew invectives at a decent public servant.
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/10/2010 3:54:10 PM
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The only ones that appear naked in this exchange are the shallow, snarky libs who can only spew invectives at a decent public servant.
But that's cool with conservatives right? I mean, look at all the hooplah when Scott Brown was elected, and that man knows naked way better than this snarky lib.
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/10/2010 4:48:30 PM
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Although I so very rarely agree with Euty in the CE folder, I have to agree that Jimmy Carter isn't an airhead. Being smart in no way guarantees goodness, effectiveness or wisdom. In fact, I'm prone to think the contrary from examples like Richard Nixon. Nixon may have been the most intelligent individual to take up the Presidency, and we all know how that ended. Throughout our history, some of the worst performers in the presidency were those who were renowned academics and so-called geniuses. Same goes for Obama, I think he's smart, but I think he lacks ANY kind of wisdom. I will disagree that Palin is an airhead. That's simply not the case. I have serious doubts about her ability to be a good president, in fact I'd prefer not to vote for her, but she's quite obviously a bright and talented individual. Disagreeing with her style, or deriding her University of Idaho pedigree does not make that any less true.
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/10/2010 7:40:27 PM
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She was a successful governor of a state who took on corruption in her own party and won.
She was also a governor who championed that legislation that attacked corruption and in her "failure to read the legislation" left herself wide open to be litigated out of office.
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/11/2010 12:38:14 AM
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The only ones that appear naked in this exchange are the shallow, snarky libs who can only spew invectives at a decent public servant.
But that's cool with conservatives right? I mean, look at all the hooplah when Scott Brown was elected, and that man knows naked way better than this snarky lib.
Sorry, not following you on this one. What conservatives spewed invectives at Scott Brown?
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RE: Palin -- Fan of Socialized Health Care? - 3/11/2010 12:48:37 AM
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I have serious doubts about her ability to be a good president, in fact I'd prefer not to vote for her, but she's quite obviously a bright and talented individual. Disagreeing with her style, or deriding her University of Idaho pedigree does not make that any less true.
She's not running for President. She just gave a speech and pointed out an ironic fact that she thought relevant to her audience,
It's ALL about her style, her gender, her U of I degree, her state, her conservatism.... The elites have deemed her contemptible because she has a threatening ammount of mass appeal. The only people that like her are those she governed, those who hear her speeches, read her book, appreciate her spirit, etc., so the best way to counter that is to attack her family, ridicule her state, convince people she's an empty (pants) suit, or an airhead, empress, whatever.
This whole thread is the height of condescension and elitism.
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