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What would you teach new believers? - 7/11/2010 11:09:33 PM
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scottmcc1
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My initial plan is to go through John explaining Jesus to them. Then go through and hit the highlights of Ephesians.
What do you think?
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/11/2010 11:17:36 PM
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The very first thing I would do, after praying for them to be baptized in His Holy Spirit and baptizing them in water, is to simply tell them to go read the Scripture for themselves, asking God to clarify things along the way.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/12/2010 10:50:52 AM
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Hello scottmcc1
What you listed would be good for new believers.
I think another aspect of scripture might be to study the parable of the sower. Help the new person to apply it to them. The idea is that they need to become rooted in Jesus Christ and allow the Word to permeate their hearts.
One of the best things also, is to teach new believers to receive truth by revelation, that is God Himself teaching truth. That way they know it and it will never leave them, nor will anyone ever be able to pull it out of them.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/12/2010 1:30:51 PM
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I would do a Bible Study with them and attempt to manually show them how to study the scripture themselves.
Ephesians is a great book because it hits the sovereignty of God, The Church and imitating God.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/12/2010 2:04:32 PM
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Usually, it's going through the book of John and the book, How To Grow In Christ. A great book that covers nearly all the basics of the faith. We've used it many times.
We also memorize the names of books of the new testament, using one of those memory helper charts.
Takes a a few months, depending on the group or individual.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/12/2010 10:37:00 PM
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I would find out what they believed to be true about the bible
and about Christianity. Then you can correct any error they
have believed to be true.
There's some pretty messed up people who come to the Lord for
salvation and they have so-called biblical or Christian truths they
have heard or been taught that are falsehoods.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/13/2010 7:25:07 AM
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I take them thru the foundational doctrines of Hebrews 6.1-3:
Repentace
Faith
Baptisms
Laying on of hands
Resurrection of the dead
Eternal Judgement
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/13/2010 10:42:00 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: scottmcc1
Is the book:
How to Grow in Christ by Jack D. Kinneer?
This is the book I found on Amazon.
Yep, that's the one.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/13/2010 10:44:03 AM
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John and Ephesians are great places to start, as far as the brain-stuff of growing in Christ. They are really good choices -- and nothing forms lives so powerfully as the strength and beauty of God's Word to us... But you will need to also do quite a lot of living alongside them in order to communicate by example all the other non-brain stuff of faith.
You will have to draw them to prayer by showing them what it's like to live in the presence of Christ. You will have to show them about the promptings of the Spirit by letting them be around you when that happens to you. You will have to show them ethics and integrity and surrender and active love...
And if you (or someone else) can't just hang out for, say, 5 hours a week (in regular life contexts, while not worshiping or studying) then you (or someone else) will have to compensate for that by being very chatty about the things of faith in your life, and being a very very active listener regarding the growth of faithfulness in their lives.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/13/2010 11:16:18 AM
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I was in a new Christians class when I got saved!! I had gone b/c I was seeking, driving my sister batty with all my questions, and really wanting answers. We had gotten the OK of the pastor's wife, who was to teach the class, and as she was a family friend as well, she was thrilled when my sister and I "went down front" a week after starting the class.
We used Survival Kit: 5 Keys to Effective Spiritual Growth, a curriculum that includes Scripture memorization (the edition we used had perforated business-size cards in the back of the book), 6 sets of 5 days of Bible reading and "homework," journaling assignments, and such. So... the practice of having a quiet time is introduced and begun.
Here's the description: "Helps new and growing Christians understand and deal with conflicts between old and new patterns of thoughts and habits. It also helps believers develop a regular pattern of quiet time, prayer, Bible study, and Scripture memorization. Includes a small-group discussion guide and one-to-one counselor's guide. (6 sessions)."
It really explains well the flesh nature vs. the spirit nature. And I remember that we immediately began interceding for people we knew who weren't saved.
It was this class and curriculum that helped me understand the truth of John 3:16 as it applied to me personally (not merely as it applies to all humans).
I wish I could remember the chapter topics and titles.
I know you don't have to use a curriculum, but for me, as a person who learns better when using something that someone else has organized and structured (I'm not so great at organizing info. for myself, especially if I have no clue where to begin!), it was just what the doctor ordered! 
Another key thing that I learned early on in the season of being a new Christian is the five functions of the church: worship, fellowship, discipleship, ministry, and missions (and yes, this was before Purpose Driven Life came out w/ similar info).
And I think the concept of spiritual gifts was introduced... Though it takes a while for a Christian to discover what his/hers might be -- 'cause they're given for the purpose of the church, I think we have to observe one another "in action."
Some book titles I found out about later:
* Personal Bible Study Methods: 12 Ways to Study the Bible on Your Own, by Rick Warren
* How to Study Your Bible: The Lasting Rewards of the Inductive Method, by Kay Arthur
* How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth, by Gordon D. Fee and Douglas Stuart
Lots of great ideas in this thread! 
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/13/2010 11:21:21 AM
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James is another good place for young believers to study. I've heard it called "Practical Christianity".
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/13/2010 1:38:00 PM
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What would you teach new believers? My denomination has terrific Bible-based studies on "Basic Christianity" or "Christianity 101" which seem much better organized and assimilated for newbies by topical issues and not just randomly going through NT Books which were not written for that purpose. I also really like the idea in post #4 about learning how to study and apply Scripture as well as post #7 about identifying false assumptions and previous doctrinal errors.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/15/2010 10:47:56 PM
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scottmcc1
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Thanks everyone for all the great ideas. I really think this is a wealth of information.
Studying the parable of the sower hit a cord with me. Many accept Christ and then fall away because they really didn't know what they were getting into. Or they made a decision too quick. Or many other reasons. Teaching people as discipleship is also very good. We are not called to gain conversions but to make disciples.
Below is a list:
Teach Jesus in John then hit highlights of Ephesians
Teach the baptism in water and the Spirit.
Read the Bible.
Study the parable of the sower.
Learn to receive truth by revelation.
Do a Bible study with them showing them how to study.
Use the book "How to Grow in Christ" by Jack D. Kinner
Memorize the books of the NT
Teach what is true about the Bible and Christianity.
Teach the foundational doctrines of Hebrews 6:1-3
Disciple them by example.
Pray with them showing them what it is to live in the presence of Christ.
Learn to recognize the promptings of the Spirit. Also ethics, integrity, surrender and active love.
Express the things of faith in your life and guide the growth of their faithfulness.
Survival Kit: 5 Keys to Effective Spiritual Growth
The 5 functions of the church: worship, fellowship, discipleship, ministry and missions.
Teach spiritual gifts
Personal Bible Study Methods by Rick Warren
How to Study Your Bible by Kay Arthur
How to read the Bible for All its Worth by Fee and Stuart
Study James
Basic Christianity
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/16/2010 8:32:26 PM
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Teach what is true about the Bible and Christianity.
For this one I would use: One To One - By Dr. Robert M. Lewis - There is a leaders guide and a student guide - It's main statement "Understanding the Christian Faith ..... Like You Never Have Before!"
It answers hard questions like.....
How do I know the Bible is true?
Was the Bible written by man or God?
If it was written so long ago, how accurate is it?
Is the Bible God's word?
How does all this apply to me?
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/18/2010 1:39:19 PM
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I have heard people say to have them read from the beginning of the new Testament to the end --- I also enjoyed the book Growing in Christ -- I personally didn't do that until several years into my walk. When I was new in the Lord, I did the group Celebrate Recovery and I not only learned a lot, but it got me digging into the Word of God, dug out a lot of junk from my life, and got me more rooted into the Lord. I think that anything that works for the person to get more rooted into the Lord is what works. I don't know if there is any foolproof way.
I mean look at Paul -- he went away for three years. Not many people can do that these days, but that would be ideal!
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/18/2010 8:20:51 PM
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hebrews 6.1,2
therefore, leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of
1. repentance from dead works and of
2. faith toward God,
3. of instruction about washings and
4. laying on of hands, and
5. the resurrection of the dead and
6. eternal judgment.
those are the basics - the elementary teaching.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/23/2010 4:00:55 PM
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I would definitely seek the face of the lord on wat to give them. Only the lord knows wat he has for his people. Inquire of the lord until he gives you wat 2 give them.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/24/2010 7:47:55 PM
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I have heard people say to have them read from the beginning of the new Testament to the end
The problem is that the New Testament is built upon the foundation of the Old. That is not to say that if one just reads the New Testament that they have an inaccurate belief system or are unable to have a saving faith -- I don't think that at all.
I feel there is a fine line to walk -- you don't want to throw too much at new believers, but you want to have them step out in the right direction; and that is, reading Scripture in its intended context with the appropriate background information.
I spent most of my younger years only reading and studying the New Testament, and once I began to read the Torah, it changed my perspective on a number of things that I read in the Apostolic literature. I had misunderstood a number of things, or had only gotten a partial picture of what was really going on.
The question is: how do you begin to give someone milk and grow them to meat, and not overload them early on, but still give them the complete picture from both Testaments?
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/24/2010 7:50:01 PM
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The very first thing I would do, after praying for them to be baptized in His Holy Spirit and baptizing them in water, is to simply tell them to go read the Scripture for themselves, asking God to clarify things along the way.
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The very first thing I would do, after praying for them to be baptized in His Holy Spirit and baptizing them in water, is to simply tell them to go read the Scripture for themselves, asking God to clarify things along the way.
Do you think you should do those things to people who do not understand yet?
You've got to learn to crawl before you can walk.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/25/2010 3:44:34 AM
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As for as theology, or what specific books to study first - I don't know. But as a Christian, I wish somebody would've spent the time to teach me how to use the Bible. Sure I could look things up and use the index, but I didn't know how to USEmy Bible.
Another part of using your Bible is devotions. There was a time when I would randomly pick a passage to read and call it good. Now I have devotion books and I journal. But, I had to train myself to actively read passages, and how to ask the Lord for understanding of said passage.
That's just my humble opinion.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 7/30/2010 12:19:11 AM
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Scott,
The first thing I would teach new believers is the importance of renewing the mind.
I would lay out a New Believer's Survival Guide with simple steps and scriptural truths about who they are in Christ. This would be a great opportunity for new believers to immediately begin exercising their faith in a very basic way while learning scripture, discipline, and a new way of seeing themselves.
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RE: What would you teach new believers? - 8/1/2010 4:21:53 AM
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Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
This scripture identifies faith as a foundational teaching of the doctrine of Christ.
1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby
Faith is the milk of the word.
Romans 10: 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
You must have faith in order to please God.
Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
So my advice is the initial things to teach people is faith, the importance of knowing and studying the word of God, the importance of renewing the mind,and grace. If they are born again its because they already have somewhat of an understanding of what Christ has done. Love is the most important thing but, love is the meat of the word. If they are babes in Christ give them the foundations which is faith, grace, the word, and the renewing of the mind. Once they grasp these concepts than understanding love and all the rest of the fruit of spirit becomes easier to comprehend, and is also easier to walk in. Because we walk by faith.... They cannot walk in the fruit if they don't understand faith.
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